New Pricing FAQs

Mobile_FAQ

UPDATED: 11/08/13

As previously announced, our new pricing will launch globally on October 1st.  A number of qood questions have been posed and we have put together a set of FAQs that we hope will further clarify pricing for our partners.

Why are you changing the ePN pricing model?

All good pricing models evolve over time and reflect the changing marketplace and strategies of the business.

The new pricing structure provides greater transparency and simplicity, so you know exactly how earnings are calculated and are better able to optimize.

The new pricing model allows us to compensate you competitively for the traffic that you drive to eBay, while including an incentive to help eBay expand its customer base.

What does this mean for the future of ePN’s affiliate program?

The future for ePN has never been brighter and our pricing model now better reflects our goals and ambitions.

New pricing will help us strengthen the program, allowing for better alignment with eBay’s company-wide initiatives of driving buyers in specific categories and expanding the customer base through new and reactivated buyers.

How is it different from the previous pricing model? What are the new components of ePN pricing?

Whereas QCP was based on an algorithm that relied on multiple factors to calculate earnings, the new pricing model is based on a set of category-level commission rates. These rates range from 40 to 80 percent of revenue, based on category and program country. In addition, the new pricing model provides a bonus for new and reactivated buyers. These buyers are defined as visitors who have not purchased from eBay over the past 12 months.  The new and reactivated buyer bonus equates to an additional 200 percent bonus.

Another new component is in the way we track “Buy It Now” and “Bid” items. For a “Buy It Now” item, you will be compensated if a user makes a purchase within 24 hours. For “Bid” items where a bid (not necessarily the Winning Bid) is placed within 24 hours of the initial click, you are credited for winning auctions for up to 10 days, which is the maximum length that an auction can last.

How this will affect my earnings / how much will I earn with the new model?

Overall, the pricing rates are market-driven, but will vary by publisher. As the new pricing is based on a set of category-level commission rates with bonuses for driving purchases from new and reactivated eBay buyers, those of you focusing on the higher percentage categories who are also driving new buyers will do the best under the new model.

Will the new pricing affect all publishers?

The new pricing model will be applied for all global affiliates, but rates vary by program country. Specific details can be found in the rate card.

Which programs are affected by new pricing (i.e. eBay Commerce Network, Half.com, Stubhub)?

The new pricing model applies to eBay Marketplaces programs, specifically part of eBay Partner Network. This excludes Half.com, eBay Enterprise Affiliate Network and eBay Commerce Network.

How much will I earn for driving buyers in various categories? How was this determined? Will the category rates change over time?

Category-specific rates are set to be competitive in local markets and should not change significantly over time. You can view our current rate card here.

How do I drive new/reactivated buyers?

Use our tracking parameters (Campaign and Custom ID) and data in the Transaction Download Report to analyze your current traffic and transactions to find where and when you may be currently driving these users.  We understand that finding these users and driving them to eBay takes time and effort, which is why we’re providing a 200% bonus for doing so.

Where can I get more information about the changes?

The latest information will be included on our blog at eBayPartnerNetworkBlog.com.

Where do I find my earnings information?

You can find your earnings for each transaction in the Transaction Download Report.

How do I optimize to improve my earnings?

Because of its transparency, the new pricing model makes it easier to optimize than ever before. The Transaction Download Report provides insight into buyer frequency and transactions, which will help you analyze your current traffic. And while every publisher will develop their own unique strategies to improve earnings, those focusing on the higher percentage categories while driving new and reactivated buyers make the most under the new model.

Are these cookies still based on a 7-day referral period for sales and 30 days for new users?

For a “Buy It Now” item, you will be compensated if a user makes a purchase within 24 hours. For “Bid” items where a bid (not necessarily the Winning Bid) is placed within 24 hours of the initial click, you are credited for winning auctions for 10 days, which is the maximum length that an auction can last.

Are you planning on providing more details about the model you’re using to calculate payouts?

Full details on the new pricing model, including the category rate card, the bonus structure and examples, can be found on our blog here and here.

Will reports for pre-price change remain unchanged?  i.e. they will not be updated to the reflect the new pricing?

Yes, reports will remain unchanged. There is no retroactive pricing.

Why am I seeing negative earnings?

Sometimes buyers either return merchandise or don’t complete payment after committing to buy, resulting in Unpaid Items (UPI). Historically, these negative earnings were smoothed out across several days and likely less noticeable to most partners. Partners were also unable to see exactly which transactions were reversed, but the new reporting capabilities allow clearer insight into which traffic segments potentially drive more UPIs.

Why did my earnings drop on October 1st?

Many publishers who drive primarily auction traffic were more significantly impacted during the first few days of the pricing launch than those who drive more Buy It Now traffic. With a 7-day referral period, a single day of earnings have historically been comprised of several days of Winning Bid activity. Because the referral period changed from 7 days to 24 hours on October 1st, that day’s earnings only comprised a single day of activity. Clicks from October 1st onward can drive future Winning Bid activity and metrics should normalize over time.

Do I get credit for a Bid after 24 hours?

Winning bids are still credited for 10 days after the click if there is a bid in the first 24 hours, even if there are subsequent bids after 24 hours.

Am I still getting paid for leads / ACRUs?  What is the difference between ACRU and “New Customers”? Why are you still reporting on ACRUs?

Our pricing structure does not use CRU or ACRU in determining your earnings. The CRU/ACRU action is based on a registration to eBay. A new and reactivated buyer is based on a purchase, specifically whether a buyer has purchased in the past 12 months.  Because ACRU is a metric that partners have historically leveraged to understand their performance, we will continue to provide that information to assist in optimization.

Why is my EPC so inconsistent?

An impact of the transparency that ePN provides includes potential volatility in your EPC.  Under QCP, earnings were smoothed from day to day. This provided perceived stability, but also meant that partners were unable to understand which transactions were driving which earnings. While EPC may fluctuate from day to day, partners can now see which clicks and campaigns are most profitable and optimize accordingly, which was previously not possible.

Why are you shortening the referral period? How does this affect higher consideration purchases?

With the move to a very transparent pricing model, eBay needs to ensure that you understand exactly how much you are getting paid for each transaction and why. The former 7-day referral period included a latency factor that effectively paid less for transactions as time elapsed from the click to the purchase. Now transactions are paid in full for the 24 hour referral period. While this means that fewer transactions are credited for some of you, it also means that earnings are greater on those transactions that are credited.

How will I account for buyers who just bookmark an auction in the first 24 hours and bid later?  Many buyers wait until the last minute to place bids.

Bidders must bid on an item in the 24 hours after a click to the site in order for you to receive credit. You can ensure that you are credited with all winning bids by focusing on auctions that end within 24 hours of a click.

How will this affect me if I send most of my traffic to auction listings?

By promoting auctions that end in 24 hours or less, you can earn a greater share of winning bid revenue than in the prior pricing model.

Do I get credit for items placed in the shopping cart within 24 hours but checked out after 24 hours? 

No, BIN items must be purchased within 24 hours of the click.

If a new or reactivated user buys more than one item within 24 hours of the click, do I get the new or reactivated buyer bonus for all of the items, or just the first one?

The new or reactivated bonus is applied to all items in that one day’s transactions.

Does ePN require a referrer in order for the traffic to be valid?

Although ePN doesn’t withhold payment for traffic missing referral information, we strongly encourage publishers to avoid any practices that might hide referral information, including any behavior that might create the false impression that the publisher is sending invalid traffic, or deliberately misdirecting in order to hide the source of the traffic (both of which are violations of our terms and conditions).

How does the new pricing credit Best Offers?

For a Best Offer to be credited, the offer that is accepted (regardless if it is the first offer, or a counter offer) must be placed within 24 hours of the click.

Why do I have a transaction with $0 eBay revenue and earnings?

Some transactions do not earn eBay any revenue, such as charity listings through eBay Giving Works. As payment is based on eBay revenue, these listings may not result in earnings. For non-charity transactions, sometimes revenue information is not yet available. Revenue and earnings information will be posted no later than seven days after the event date. If you are concerned about a transaction please wait seven days to see if an adjustment is made before contacting the Customer Support team.

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  • Jules Standen

    Could EPN make publishers a custom “new visitor’ dashboard or report generator option? What I mean by this is there a already a blizzard of columns in the spread sheet reports and a great deal of sorting is required to get them into any intelligible condition. I HATE the reports! – there are too many confusing irrelevant fields. Please give us one simple easy to read report. WHAT ITEMS NEW PEOPLE ARE BUYING. AND IN WHAT CATEGORIES. I would think that would be in everyones interests. Thanks.

  • http://www.helios825.org/ helios825

    That would be kinda cool if such a report appears as an option soon.

    Jules, do you know you can get that data from the Transaction Download Report? Save the report to your computer, open it in Excel/Calc, then filter/sort by Type-1 users. You can then see the meta-categories they’re buying in, and the items themselves. And with the upcoming transaction-level earnings data, I would expect we can then build Excel charts and the like based on that data too.

  • John Moss

    Sorry but most people will only bid last minute on items (sniping), so the new policy “For “Bid” items where a bid (not necessarily the Winning Bid) is placed within 24 hours of the initial click, you are credited for winning auctions for 10 days, which is the maximum length that an auction can last.”
    Is going to harm everyones profits (apart from eBay’s)

  • Frenk

    Publishers should move on to other partner networks, so it will also harm eBay’s profits ;-) I’ve generated thousands of euros of provision for ebay per month, starting October 1 I will remove EPN completely. It’s sad, but there’s no other choice. The 24h-policy is simply ridiculous …

  • velmaP

    ☺☺☺☺☺For a “Buy It Now” item, you will be compensated if a user makes a
    purchase within 24 hours. For “Bid” items where a bid (not necessarily
    the Winning Bid) is placed within 24 hours of the initial click, you are
    credited for winning auctions for 10 days, which is the maximum length
    that an auction can last.☺☺☺☺☺

    A purchase is a purchase is a purchase, A bid is a bid is a bid. This new policy is one more way to keep profits from affiliate driven traffic.

  • http://www.liberallyconservative.com/ Don Anastas

    We have NO control on the exact type of traffic we drive to eBay as far as new or current eBay registrants. Someone explain to me, a seasoned SEO and website builder, how I optimize a site to satisfy this canard? I await your answer – Tarot cards not included.

  • Stratoblogster

    I see people here complaining about 24 hour cookie on auction bids, but I read clearly above, multiple times, that the 24 hour cookie applies to BUY IT NOW only. Auctions are up to 10 day cookie life. People should READ the info!!! We have enough issues to sort through already without people making things any more complicated because they won’t read.

    So, with that said. Here’s my 2 cents…

    I was with EPN when Commission Junction handled the earnings which
    were based on straight 50% ($2.50 per $100 referred). My earnings actually improved with QCP/EPC, however, CJ’s analytics are much more transparent and easy to utilize. Also, only 30% of questions to EPN support ever yield a
    useful answer. Deciding which kinds of linking to generate, and using
    categories has been like a ouija board activity. I’ve had large gross
    sales with lots of high winning bids resulting in miniscule earnings trends–
    then, large earnings jumps when other stats are down. At least with the
    CJ program, I could track and predict. This new program needs to
    function clearly and predictably. I’ve requested to speak on the phone
    with EPN support, which is denied as they have a policy against it. This
    is after referring hundreds $K of gross sales. SO, RECORD ME!!!

    So after thousands of hours of work, over half a decade– if this new program
    doesn’t deliver better by at least providing the analytics for ME to
    steer to better earnings, I’ll be shifting my efforts to Amazon and my
    other CJ/Linkshare publisher programs. I understand the need for quality
    content/non-spam publishers. Between Google’s algorhythm changes, spam
    publishers and EPN’s juggling, it can be tough for legit publishers
    without viral value content. Hopefully EPN isn’t trying a new way to
    squeeze the good guys even tighter. I want to be optimistic. But, we
    shall see…

  • Frenk

    This is funny, YOU should read the info. The info says “if user clicks within 24 hours …” => 24 h cookie. If a user clicks after 24 hours, you get nothing. Thats the point where “EPN is trying a new way to squeeze the good guys even tighter”, to say it with your words.

  • Stratoblogster

    There is no such quote as “if user clicks within 24 hours …” in the FAQ post.

    It seems absurd that a referred visitor’s follow-up clicks to re-bid would not be counted for the publisher’s cookie. But if this is so, I’ll watch how the earnings go– if my October trends go down, and EPN’s new reports/analytics don’t provide enough insight for me to make the program viable, then I’ll phase out of EPN.

    So let’s all keep our fingers crossed and hope that our tools, and the behavior of our referrals works for us.;)

  • Frenk

    Äh ?!?! You should take a clear look.

    “For “Bid” items where a bid (not necessarily the Winning Bid) is placed within 24 hours of the initial click,[...]”

    Furthermore, it has been clarified several times that it is only a 24 h cookie.

  • ltdinvestments

    You are right about a direct quote that you show but –

    “For “Bid” items where a bid (not necessarily the Winning Bid) is placed within 24 hours of the initial click, you are credited for winning auctions for up to 10 days, which is the maximum length that an auction can last.”

    says that in EPN/eBay speak. But to Scott did say it directly in the other blog post after days of complaining about the initial wording that suggested a better Bid action -

    “Thank you for your comments and feedback on the new pricing. Since our announcement yesterday there have been questions about the length of the referral period and exactly how that will work in our new pricing
    model. Currently there is 7-day referral period for all actions. When pricing launches on October 1st, we’ll be moving to a 24-hour referral period. If there is a bid on an auction within 24 hours of the initial click, you will get credit for a winning bid even if the auction doesn’t close in 24 hours……..”

  • Webcrazy

    “It seems absurd that a referred visitor’s follow-up clicks to re-bid would not be counted for the publisher’s cookie…” That is exactly what is going to happen if your visitor does NOT bid within the 24hr period. It makes no difference if they have placed a bid within that period and then bid again, your cookie will stay until the end of the auction, you will only get paid if they WIN the auction, so it doesn’t matter how many times they click, not any more

  • ClickimusPrime

    In general, followup clicks to the same item will be irrelevant because the auction grace period goes to the end of the auction anyway. A new click isn’t needed on additional bids to win the item. But cookie resets or device switching by the same user may break or replace the original bid. It’s not clear if the original user bid would be commissionable then.

    More scenarios in the forum:
    http://community.ebay.com/t5/eBay-Partner-Network-English/24-hour-end-time-window-how-to/m-p/17431955

    Follow-up sales of other items are the much bigger issue, being reduced from 7 days to 1 day. And each click provides an opportunity to get bids on other items, so encouraging repeat clicks can be advantageous.

  • Stratoblogster

    Maybe someone from EPN could drop in to help clarify the confusion. The lack of follow-up communication & clarification from EPN has always exacerbated these types of issues. They’ve obviously posted an FAQ with some vague points.

  • ltdinvestments

    Scott did in the announcement on Sept 12th and then clarified in the response to one of my post later that day or the next (look toward the end)

    “When pricing launches on October 1st, we’ll be moving to a 24-hour referral period. If there is a bid on an auction within 24 hours of the initial click, you will get credit for a winning bid even if the auction doesn’t close in 24 hours. “

  • http://www.minnellium.com Dave Haygarth

    Remember those cookies only relate to people using the same machine…! I often may find something on one PC then bid (snipe) at the last minute on a mobile. The partner still drove the traffic and the purchase. eBay surely want rid of ePN and this is the thin end of the wedge – making partners walk away!

  • pubpubpub

    Well, I won’t need this faq. My earnings abruptly stopped on October 1, 2013. I’m taking ‘em down.

  • Tolleart

    I noticed EPN keeps adjusting my clicks. On 10/1 I had 8 clicks and today it’s been adjusted to zero. Is anyone else experiencing this?

  • ltdinvestments

    Lost 75% of the clicks and ALL of the impressions…..

  • http://www.ebaypartnernetworkblog.com/en/ Scott Parent / ePN

    Hi Tolleart,

    We are aware that click data is not populating at this time. Our team is working to restore the data and I will let you know as soon as we have more information.

    We apologize for the inconvenience.

  • Tolleart

    Thanks for the update Scott, appreciate it!

  • http://www.ebaypartnernetworkblog.com/en/ Scott Parent / ePN

    Earlier today we identified an issue that prevented click data from being properly reported through the web interface. We have identified the root cause and are working to address it. Please note that clicks that disappeared did not have any BIN/Bid activity associated with them, therefore all transactions and earnings have been reported accurately. When earnings update later today for Oct. 2nd, you’ll notice clicks will “disappear” again. This is expected until we have the fix in place.

    We understand that this is frustrating and we do sincerely appreciate your patience.

  • http://www.ebaypartnernetworkblog.com/en/ Scott Parent / ePN

    You’re welcome. Just posted another update at the top of this comment thread.

    Thank you for your patience.

  • Steve Johnson

    24-hour cookie or not, my daily revenue has dropped to only 1/3 of the average value in September. Ouch! We should consider driving all the traffic to Amazon instead. The good days are gone permanently.

  • je

    Hello yesterday i have 0,0 EPC , on the 1 .10. i have only 1/3 from september, that is very hard. :-(

  • je

    sorry i mean 1/4

  • http://www.ebaypartnernetworkblog.com/en/ Scott Parent / ePN

    We know that many of you have been patiently waiting for an update regarding the issue of click data not properly reporting through our web interface. We are happy to report that our team has put a fix in place and it will take effect in time for Oct. 3rd earnings that will post later today, Oct. 4th. Click data for Oct. 1st and 2nd will be updated in the web interface and available to publishers by October 14th. Please note that all transactions and earnings have been reported accurately.

    Thank you for your understanding and patience as we’ve worked through this issue.

  • pubpubpub

    I’m with you. Or a retail affiliate that just sticks to 8% instead of this purposely misleading, complicated EPC and algorithm crap and constant downgrading of earnings.

  • Robin

    I’m a bit of a newbie. Do we get paid for clicks anymore? I see that we get paid for people who choose the “Buy it Now” option or who win an auction.

  • http://www.helios825.org/ helios825

    It seems that quality-based clicks are no longer the payout basis, and instead we’re being directly compensated for portions of eBay’s revenue on sales.

    Generally speaking, under this new commission schedule we should be aiming to get people to Buy-It-Now or bid on auctions within 24 hours after clicking through our sites to eBay. Higher commissions will be paid if those buyers are new eBay shoppers or haven’t bought on eBay within 12 months. Also, extra commissions are paid for certain higher-value categories.

    But this new system is just being rolled out this week, so it’s pretty new for everyone, the reporting changeovers have some kinks that are being smoothed out, and we’re all just starting to get a feel for it (I think ePN staff included)….

    I wonder if they’ll keep the term “Quality Click Pricing” or go another route.

  • luisdelbar

    I have all my clicks today (Oct 3) but no earnings, and all my impressions has been deleted, Yesterday some clicks were deleted and all impressions too. I don’t understand. EPN was great before but now is not working properly. This change was not good. I think I’m going to leave this program. I’m so disappointed

  • Webcrazy

    So what happens to the winning auctions/BINs that happened at the end of September? I have stats with winners for last week, have eBay just decided that they don’t count anymore? If so that is really poor

  • wollastoni

    I had an average EPC at 0,12€ (0,16 USD) from January to September. From 1st to 3rd October, my average EPC is 0,01 €… I have divided my revenue by 12… if it doesnt change fast, I will remove all my EPN banners.

  • parker313

    It showed I had 2 acru’s yesterday so far for Oct, now it shows 0.

    So far for Oct, I’m averaging about 1/10 of my daily earnings in Sept. I can’t be the only one getting killed by this.

  • Stock Penny

    Everyone is making nothing. Check the epn message boards everyone is mad and taking down all their ebay links and putting up Amazon ones.

  • John Retzer

    Today I got 1/10th of revenue as before for same number of clicks. It seems pretty clear to me that Ebay has calculated the behavior of most bidders (watch, wait several days then bid at last minute) and constructed the affiliate payout to avoid payment. Potential buyers come to my site, click on watch this auction, wait then bid at the last minute several days later. Ebay gets their cut. I get nothing. Very disappointing.

  • http://twitter.com/missourijewel Nancy Boevingloh

    To say I’m totally disgusted with EPN is an understatement. And, to Scott Parent, who only occasionally answers questions, I just want to say that this new payout structure is total B.S. I’ve put in hundreds of hours and five years of work into creating a secure niche that drives in monthly repeat eBay buyers and helps keep them loyal customers to eBay. My eBay sales have an average of 35-40% repeat buyers each month which benefits me AND eBay. I work very hard to get them to come back and buy again and again. It’s now obvious with the ‘new’ pay system that my hard work is no longer appreciated or wanted. Thank you SO much for the one penny in compensation I received for 20 clicks! I’ll be removing all links from my website and will only continue with a small portion of links to current customers in order to help ME, not eBay or EPN. And, don’t forget that just about every company out there has an ‘affiliate’ link at the bottom of their page.

  • Frenk

    Ridiculous. Just ridiculous.

    It’s really a shame how ebay is handling this.

  • http://cavsun.com/ Glendale Watkins

    Very disappointing thus far. I was already struggling to make money with this and now nothing. Wow! I’ll play this month out and see how it goes, but in the meantime I’m looking elsewhere for affiliate programs. If this is eBay idea to get rid of its affiliates, then it’s working.

  • Stock Penny

    EPN thinks people will go to ebay and buy said item without our traffic. They are mistaken. Anyone wanting to buy on ebay goes to ebay not our websites. How hard is that to understand EPN PEOPLE?????

  • http://twitter.com/missourijewel Nancy Boevingloh

    Exactly! I sell supplies to artists and jewelry designers. I put a lot of effort into creating attractive photographic links and banners that give my customers the desire to have what I’m showing them. My links get them in the door at eBay, whether they buy from me or wander off to other sellers, I should still be rewarded for my effort.

  • Joe

    My earnings have dropped to less than 10% of what they were before but even worst I somehow got negative earnings for oct 4th. So now ebay expects me to pay them for sending traffic to them ?? What a joke.

  • http://cavsun.com/ Glendale Watkins

    I think buying items off eBay then resell them on Craigslist pays more than this affiliate program.

  • http://twitter.com/missourijewel Nancy Boevingloh

    Apparently I need to repost my original post since it says it’s saying I’m “…awaiting moderation.” Here it is again: To say I’m totally disgusted with EPN is an understatement. This new payout structure is total B.S. I’ve put in hundreds of hours and five years of work into creating a secure niche that drives in monthly repeat eBay buyers and helps keep them loyal customers to eBay. My eBay sales have an average of 30-40% repeat buyers each month which benefits me AND eBay. I work very hard to get them to come back and buy again and again. It’s now obvious with the ‘new’ pay system that my hard work is no longer appreciated or wanted. Thank you SO much for the one penny in compensation I received for 20 clicks! I’ll be removing all links from my website and will only continue with a small portion of links to current customers in order to help them and me, not eBay or EPN. And, don’t forget that just about every company out there has an ‘affiliate’ link at the bottom of their page.

  • http://twitter.com/missourijewel Nancy Boevingloh

    You know…five years ago when I accidentally discovered eBay Partner Network, while just trying to be nice and create links to sellers on eBay who had sold me items I used in my glass art, the original going rate for bringing in customers was 50% of the 12% in revenue generated. Think about it. That meant 6% of every sale. It was an amazing time with amazing results. Then, within a year, EPN changed it to a per click payout and suddenly, instead of making $12 off of a $200 sale, I was now making seventeen cents. Wow. Unbelievable. Thinking I was still helping the sellers I decided the best route was to adapt; so I did. I have since watched with sadness as EPN has consistently done everything in their power to reduce our earnings. Unbelievable. I am dumbfounded at their audacity. I have also started removing links to eBay on my website.

  • PFN92

    Bravo EPN— I have gone from having steady though meager earnings every day….to zip, zero, nada, nothing. Brilliant way to kill off your affiliates.

  • Daniel Silk

    Basically this looks like the closure of Ebay Partner Network under another name.
    Ebay are asking us all to drive traffic to them so they can make money while we make a loss.
    I will give it a few more days in the hope Ebay wake up to this massive mistake.

  • Ralph Slate

    The 24-hour cookie simply does not work with an auction-based affiliate program. People do not bid immediately upon clicking through, they know enough to wait the auction out and bid in the last few hours. I saw a 80% drop in revenue with this change, and have pulled the EPN code from my site. A penny for a 100% targeted and valid click is a horrible deal. Sorry EPN – you blew it.

  • http://twitter.com/missourijewel Nancy Boevingloh

    I’m so disgusted I’ll be removing almost all of my links. I do not in any way want to make EPN money when their compensation is now a total joke.

  • http://twitter.com/missourijewel Nancy Boevingloh

    It really is a shame how EPN is handling this. I don’t think I’ve ever disliked a company so much for how awful they’re being to their affiliates.

  • http://twitter.com/missourijewel Nancy Boevingloh

    EPN you totally blew it as a company. Thanks a lot for having our backs as affiliates.

  • http://twitter.com/missourijewel Nancy Boevingloh

    You’re right. Everyone is making nothing. I’m very angry about it too. And, disgusted with EPN.

  • http://twitter.com/missourijewel Nancy Boevingloh

    I’m currently removing links from my website… The ‘new’ pay system is a joke designed only to help EPN.

  • http://twitter.com/missourijewel Nancy Boevingloh

    Scott, despite the concerns I’ve had with the changes EPN has consistently made in the last five years, I still really believed that EPN was worth my time. I am so disappointed in the new pay structure and the fact that EPN truly doesn’t care about their affiliates.

  • http://twitter.com/missourijewel Nancy Boevingloh

    Nice going EPN, now you’re not even letting me post my comments? Perhaps I should take my disdain to twitter…

  • http://www.bestinternetshopping.us/ usavacantland

    I have not heard one publisher say that this was a good move for them. However it looks like this was a brilliant move on EBay’s part to save money and keep most of the profits for themselves. This new pricing system is the death of the Ebay Network Program!!!

  • johnny

    Get a grip.

  • johnny

    I am just baffled by the greediness of some affiliates here… Get a grip, move on.
    “Aught for naught, and a penny change.”

  • http://www.ebaypartnernetworkblog.com/en/ Scott Parent / ePN

    Hi Nancy,

    I think if you look at this thread, we’ve actually posted all of your comments. Please keep in mind that our blog comments are moderated and are not automatically approved when you post them. I try to get them approved as soon as possible.

    Thanks.

  • Tolleart

    So far I’m disappointed with the new pricing structure. I thought I would wait and see how it would play out, so far no earnings. I made some sales in late September but since the first of October things have not looked good. I haven’t lost all hope but I’m already becoming less engaged and am looking for more lucrative affiliate options.

  • ConcernedCitizen2321

    Not trying to troll or hate on you EPN, but your new pricing completely ruined my web businesses I had geared towards promoting your listings. My revenue is down 98%. Nothing but a ghost town now, revenue-wise.

  • jinsaotome

    The 24 hour cookie is completely and utterly shutting down ALL affiliates. Here’s what’s happening to me: Buyer finds my link, sees the item, watches it for 4 days and bids a few minutes before it ends. I see 0 revenue for sending them to that auction because the cookie expired 3 days ago and they just type in ‘eBay.com’ to get to their watched item.

    There’s no reason for me to have eBay links anymore. Even buy-it-now auctions see people wait a day before committing. They check some online stores and their local Walmart first. How can people justify making 1¢ epc or actually seeing NEGATIVE earnings now? Yes you heard me right, just check the forums. People are falling into the negatives. Its time to bailwhen that happens….sorry eBay.

  • Webcrazy

    So no answer then EPN – where is our commission for the last week of September? Have you just hoped we wouldn’t notice?

  • Affiliate Marketer

    Do we get credit for items placed in the shopping cart within 24 hours but checked out after 24 hours?

    Do we get credit for Best Offer transactions?

    Are you going to start providing a Timestamp as part of the Event Date in the Transaction download report?

    If a new or reactivated user buys more than 1 item within 24 hours of
    the click, does the affiliate get the NRUB 200% credit for all of the
    items, or just the first one?

  • Affiliate Marketer

    And, are we going to get an Event timestamp along with the Event Date?

  • Jules Standen

    Too much librarian work for my taste. Publishers need / deserve more sophisticated dashboards.

  • Charlie Wong

    Someone quoted this from EPN on this post. “For “Bid” items where a bid (not necessarily the Winning Bid) is placed within 24 hours of the initial click, you are
    credited for winning auctions for 10 days, which is the maximum length
    that an auction can last.

    If this is the case then why have I just had the reply below from EPN. I was asking why I have had bids on items within 24 hours but not earned anything at all..EPN said:

    We kindly inform you that as of 01st October 2013 the payment structure
    was replaced by a set of category-level commission rates model. In this
    payment structure you will make earnings only if your bids end up in
    winning bids, regardless of the number of the bids.”

    Hold on a second, didn’t EPN say that the bids didn’t necessarily have to be the winning bids? As long as bids were placed.. Am I missing something here?

  • http://www.helios825.org/ helios825

    The bidder still needs to WIN the auction for you to get paid. This is what ePN means by “you are credited for winning auctions for 10 days”.

    The part that says “a bid (not necessarily the Winning Bid) is placed within 24 hours of the initial click” means that any bid by that user on that auction within 24 hours (winning bid or not winning bid) will count, up to 10 days later, *if* that user ultimately ends up as the winner.

  • ltdinvestments

    Yes. You’re missing the part about winning bids that was in the quoted. What has to happen is the first bid must be within the 24hr window to get credit IF they win the auction. That bid might not be the winning bid but THEY have to win the auction.

  • Charlie Wong

    Thanks for the info guys. That’s made it much easier to understand. But wow, no wonder I haven’t made any money with EPN lately. Here’s me thinking I’d actually got some bids and my earnings were going to rise above zero. No such luck. They musn’t have been winning bids.

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